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wA®cS: ÉSx~© {SMv? Y}ySv _A}ÜSÜ, c~cSrS} {SBÑM=Mi Xbv tM§} iAy ÑÜMrS h~Mi, Ac© {xÉÃÉ~?
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Xbv (ÑSÉMr ÑSÉMr): Z\ PvS, _>Mt} Éc~Mc AvMÜZ YA{ _cmS Dá9 cM}Ai~S{¥ ’47-_} SSuHvrS AtyMÉ} wSÉñMwCfMz _cmS Aö~S}¥ Ac© {ÚÅAc~mS cH jSMvv, PÉdSMv _>Mt} Éc~Mc Y{S} PÉZ É{MÜ} P{c-Yw, {©SvSA}j{ AtMÜ KrA} c}Mr ÑMy¥ aZ ZArÑSMÉ YA{  _dvZ pÍcMr hSZAi vS¥ Zv x©Sf, YA{ _dvcS} wSÉñMwCfMz y}Ø _cmS j{SCm iAy...

wA®cS: {SMv, Xbv t§ <MÉvAjà hMùSwSu©SÜMc AvMÜ PcSva _iMwA}M{M* |SMyv vS, y}Ø j{SCm iAy c}Myv¥ ~SZc ‘ySyS Pcv hSc}’!
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wA®cS: {SMv ‘PhSMd} ySA~’ yS ‘SMs} Atv’-Cmv vÜ...
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wA®cS: tS>ÖSv, tS>ÖSv¥ rS ÑM~ Xbv t§ _dv j{SCm iAyMrZ Ay®SÉ cM}v!
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wA®cS: YwAv rdv PsMc _cmS csS yM~ |SMöv¥ Y{S} òSZM~, Y{S} {MrS j{j{Sm iAy¥ {SMv, YwvS} {Mv ÑMö, ‘ySyS Pcv hSc}’ yS ‘rÍ~cS~S{’ mSZMw} iAy Y} h~My vS?
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wA®cS: Ac© ‘PhR}SUS’} w} PrS _cmS ySØ~S iAy c}Myv!
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wA®cS: {SMv, XA{rSz yôv PÉMcä ZAvØMÉ P| zSMy ‘É}cS}’ yS ‘AhAv c{’-_} {MrS iAy PwMÜMiv...
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wA®cS: eSÜc Xbv tM§} cH Ñ~?
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wA®cS: XAzMvrS Xbv PsMc eSÜc Xbv, rS} w} wA}hS~c Xbv¥ PÉmSZ ~Sò òw?
Xbv: vS¥ _dv Y{S}, jSMvv, dÚy ZMö cM} _eAjAc\Cmz P<SAo\ÉS} ÑMr¥

wA®cS: {SMv, Xv©}S wA}hS~vS c}My¥ Y} YwAv <M|Sjc wScMÖ YvMyv?
Xbv: vS¥ y}Ø GZMÜ xS}ÑSv YdrS}, YAtr© PhSwÖS}S P|{v c}Mi¥ _eAjAc\Cmz <M|Sjc c<M|Sjc wScÖSÜ vS, PÉ AçMÜCmz ZvwÚmÉa PtMy¥ _Z iAymS AÑA2Mr vS cM} y}Ø ySØ~SÜ cM}S¥ hM~S, A}Mj cm vS cM} y}Ø AÉvmS ‘SzÎA{’Mr KrA} c}S |Sc¥ {ÙqS~tSMc cr Atv y~Ai, YwAv iAy cTv¥ YA{ _eAjAc\Cmz P<SAo\ÉS} Ñy¥

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wA®cS: Pcv?
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wA®cS: rS, _Z cS|ñAvyñSÑH <M|SjMc} wMs crmS PtRÖM~v?
Xbv: XMvcmSZ¥ w}M{} iAymS ‘PÉc Px~’, YA{ tSAܧ AvMÜAi¥ jSvÚÜSA} vSeSt Y} _cmS AxMµ} tSAܧ AvMr wSA}¥ vrÍv wA}hS~c, csSySrñS h~Mi¥

wA®cS: Ac© XAzMvrS Xbv t§? _r Aci c}Mr AeMÜ Ac rS>} {ÙrÍ© fMm Pe~?
Xbv: cH cA}? Pc\ Y} oSMc vS¥ {SMk ÉÚÉr XyÅ© ‘_c P| YMi cv©S’} P}S~mS} jv© yM~Ai~¥ YA{Z PÉdSMv cóqS} vS{ ÉSMjò cM}Ai~S{¥ rS} w} PtAd, tË}! _ PrS P{MÜmSMc AvMÜZ eO¥ wM} PyqÚ (Éy©ÉShH) c}~¥ PcRAÅca ‘aÜSA}É’ iAy} jv© yM~Ai~¥ Ac© _cmS PiM~ AyMÜ c}Mi, YyS} P<A{cSMc {Mv wÖMi, _ Éy PtMd Pc{v P|v Pf>Mm Pe~S{¥ PcRAÅc PySkS~, vS, P{MÜ}S _ zSMyZ wÚTÇÅSAÉr É{SMj sSMc¥ uÚM§A}, Y{S} vS PàSeSv _ct{ zS~ ~SMe vS!

wA®cS: ryÚ A{AiM~ ÑS>Mmv...
Xbv: tË}! YA{ A{AiM~ PÑ<MmAi~S{ y©Aåer cS}Mq¥ rS} ÉMò v2HéS{, AÉòÁ}, {{rS, _ ÉMy} PcSva ÉDcÕ Ai~ vS¥ y}Ø PzMyAi~S{, Y{S} iAy} XAzMvrS w}{Mc X©SM}ò c}S ÑMö, YA{ tS>AÖMÜ Ptdy? rS} PhMÜ _c yi} PxBòz©S~ vS PtdM~ Y{S} AcöÂ |SÜ YMÉ vS!

wA®cS: Ac© _cmS ÑZhZ PrS PxM~ AtMÜAiM~v {ÙqS~ PÉvMc <s{ Atv vSeA}c É{SMj} A{AiM~ _Mv¥ wM}} Atv {ÙqS~tS XyÅ© YyS} AÉAw_M{} A{AiM~¥
Xbv (ÑSÉMr ÑSÉMr): \Av PrS PÉ AtvZ Y{SMc yM~AiM~v, a}Sa ÑS>mMr y~Mi¥ YA{a yM~Ai~S{, |SMyv¥ tÁMmS A{AiM~Z ÑS>mMyv¥ jA{MÜ iAymS cTv, {ÙqS~tS¥ P~SMc PÉmSZ {Mv }SdMy¥ cMy PcSv A{AiM~ PÑ<MmAiM~v, PÉmS vÜ¥

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